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    Advice on my next course of action

    My unmonitored, unmedicated IUI last month was a bust, but I am not ready to close the door on ever having a child. I'll be 40 at the end of September.

    I am planning to get a new doctor and nurse team from Shady Grove, I wish I could use a different clinic but they are probably closest to me while also having an egg freezing program.

    I want to do egg freezing in case more IUIs would fail or I would miscarry, I do have thyroid disease, and I wouldn't want more months down the drain.

    But do you think that a monitored, medicated IUI with 2 vials of sperm instead of one like the 1st IUI, might be a better chance of a child actually being born?

    Just looking for advice because I know many of you have been through these sorts of things, meaning IUIs and IVF.

    At this point I still want to try for a child with my own eggs before donor eggs.

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    Medicated and monitored absolutely would be better chances of conception than what they had you do the last time.

    I feel like freezing your eggs at this point would be months wasted for probably quite low odds (because you could not TTC while the egg retrieval process was happening and then you may end up finding that you only got one or two eggs at most) BUT you have to do what YOU feel comfortable with. Better now than later!!

    I feel like you are perhaps putting too much emphasis on your 40th birthday as a cutoff date for getting "good eggs" but the unfortunate truth is that our fertility is in gradual decline form the moment we are born and your body doesn't know it's having a birthday - there is very little difference in getting eggs now as there would be in a month's time.

    Let me lay out the way this would have to go down and you can maybe see why egg freezing to me is not going to be a great bet:

    Egg freezing option - For this to work, they would have to do the egg retrieval process AND you actually respond to the meds (some don't) AND get any good eggs (some don't) AND survive the freezing process (some don't) they are fertilized (some don't) and make normal embryos (some don't) and implant successfully (some don't) and the pregnancy continues without issues (some don't) and then to top that all off, you want a girl which cuts your odds by half right from the get go - you can see that it's not entirely unlike winning the lottery which is why younger women have so much better odds - they can usually get like 20 or 30 eggs from one ER, while a 39 year old may only get ONE egg per round.

    IUI option - you'll get an egg or two on medication (hopefully injectibles this month) most likely and if you DON'T, then you'll at least KNOW because they are monitoring you. Odds of conception with IUI are not sky high but at least if you're monitored they'll be doing the IUI at the right time, which I personally do not think was the case for you the last time. It's still like winning the lottery but it's more like a scratch ticket LOL - you at least have a chance IMO.

    But all this having been said, remember how torn you were when you thought you could possibly be pregnant?? I just want to make sure this is really what you want, instead of what you think you should do or what your family wants. Wishing you the very best.
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    Thanks for the reply, sorry I couldn't reply sooner, I was on vacation and the Wi Fi sucked, lol.

    Well that's sort of what I wasthinking about the egg freezing thing, too many steps I guess you could say, that might not work.

    I've realized that I really do want a child and for the right reasons now, at first it was sort of famiky pressure but now I've got that out of my system. I also became frightened by my situation not being the classic, but I don't feel that I'll ever have that, but I still feel I don't want to give up my potential baby because it can't be the traditional family.

    I had never had a potential to be pregnant before, so I think I was a bit shell shocked, and I wasn't satisfied with my donor because I felt rushed when choosing, but I feel I've gotten my perspective back. Much of my fears came in because of the fear of a heart condition, but I don't want to let that stop me either.

    Monday I will call the clinic's office and request a consultation with another doctor/nurse team. I feel like the previous team just had a very poor att

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    *Editted to add, I just felt like my other team took a sort of "oh well" attitude about me. My tablet was giving me trouble, so I couldn't edit the post.

    I'm also not concerned about the gender anymore, a girl may be easier for me, but who knows, maybe it wouldn't.

    I was kind of feeling like I didn't deserve a child if I couldn't give it the perfect scenario, but I feel like that was being too harsh and demanding of perfection.

    I thought of closing that door, but when I thought thst, I realized if I didn't try more, I'd regret it. If I try and it all fails, at least I won't be mad at myself for not trying.

    Thanks again, and hopefully soon I'll have some good news to share!

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    I totally understand and as long as you are ready to proceed. Let us know how we can help.

    I can promise that palpitations on occasion are not indicative of a serious heart problem.

    There is no perfect scenario. Even those of us who are married for decades and from the outside everything seems very stable and settled have ups and downs and things that are not perfect for our kids.
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    Thanks again, sage, I'll keep all that in mind.

    I notice my period cycles are getting later than they used to be, I hope that's not a sign that something is wrong or I'm going into menopause...I can't proceed any further until my period comes and they do the tests. I also hate the ultrasound test, it hurts me so much, I imagine it's because I'm not sexually active. Is there anything one can do to make those less painful?

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    It's normal to see changes over time as we get older, many of us experience that and still get pregnant that way.

    Are they using enough lubricant??

    Sounds crazy but a muscle relaxer prior to going in can help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    It's normal to see changes over time as we get older, many of us experience that and still get pregnant that way.

    Are they using enough lubricant??

    Sounds crazy but a muscle relaxer prior to going in can help.
    Okay, thanks. Well, it's day 33 and I still haven't goten a period. I'm terrified I went into early menopause suddenly because of the thyroid disease and because my paternal grandmother went into it at 38.

    I called the clinic on Saturday and the nurse said based on my bloodwork that she doesn't think it would be that, but I don't know.

    I have cramps like I'm going to get it, but nothing.....and I worry the palps are a symptom of menopause.

    I will call the clinic tomorrow to see what they want to do.

    I'll tell them to use more lubricant, I don't think they used enough before, and thanks for the advice about the muscle relaxer!

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    Menopause takes years and it is not something you wake up with one day (boy it would be GREAT if it worked like that! )

    Some gals do get more palpitations around menopause but again it is something that would develop over time and not suddenly out of the blue going right smack dab into menopause. Number one cause of palpitations - anxiety.

    THere is always some story about someone in the family who went into menopause freakishly early. Take all these stories with a grain of salt. Most of the women who lived even only a generation or two ago had pretty hard lives and may have experienced malnutrition as a child, smoked, had illnesses tht could have contributed to an earlier onset of menopause. My mom had menopause young and I'm still having regular cycles at 45, and had a baby at 42.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Menopause takes years and it is not something you wake up with one day (boy it would be GREAT if it worked like that! )

    Some gals do get more palpitations around menopause but again it is something that would develop over time and not suddenly out of the blue going right smack dab into menopause. Number one cause of palpitations - anxiety.

    THere is always some story about someone in the family who went into menopause freakishly early. Take all these stories with a grain of salt. Most of the women who lived even only a generation or two ago had pretty hard lives and may have experienced malnutrition as a child, smoked, had illnesses tht could have contributed to an earlier onset of menopause. My mom had menopause young and I'm still having regular cycles at 45, and had a baby at 42.
    Okay, I'll try not to worry but I am really freaking out. I have a no menses test workup scheduled for Thursday morning but in the meanwhile I'm going crazy.

    I was researching something called premature ovarian failure and it said that people who Hashimoto's Disease often get this, and it is basically failure of your ovaries before age 40.

    My clinic knew since they did the first tests on me in 2012 that I had Hashimoto's Disease, something I didn't know until they tested me. It took a while to get under control, and it got screwed up again in 2014, right before I was going to try an IUI, which was what delayed me in getting it done, it took a few months to get under control again.

    My endocrinologist was well aware that I wanted a baby, and she never told me I could suddenly develop this POF.

    I feel like both her and the doctors at Shady Grove really messed up here, if I had known the antibodies that attack my thyroid could suddenly attack my ovaries (that is what it said happens to people who get POF this way), I'd have had my eggs frozen immediately, without trying the IUI first.

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