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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLily View Post
    ha, the story of my LIFE since the last baby. It's only 25 lbs but it aint going no where! I mountian bike 5 days a week, lift weights 45 min + 5 days a week and eat clean. Now even after ebing sick and not eating/eating vegan I STILL haven't lost an ounce.

    I figured my trick and its so hard. If I have NO SUGAR not even fruit or milk or dairy, I lose weight. SOOOOOOO hard!

    Lady, I feel your pain. I am LIVING PROOF that 1800 expended-1500 intake does not result in a 300 cal loss!!!! If it did for me, id be 105 lbs!
    I totally agree I remember always hearing things like "just stop having your daily latte and you'll lose 15 pounds in a year" or whatever but that never worked for me! My body just ADJUSTS unless I'm relatively miserable and I don't think starvation diets are healthy for women over 40 because you just lose all the bone mass and muscle and can't get it back again. So I can't go to the diet pepsi and carrot sticks that worked for me back in my 20's LOL Le sigh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Can you sleep, though?? This is my downfall because I literally cannot sleep on an empty stomach. I have to eat before bed or I lay awake for hours. :/
    Yeah. I can't sleep well on a full tummy. That makes me lie there trying to get comfortable. We're opposites!!

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    Someone on another board I post on frequently posted this recently about weight loss over 40. I'm only 34, but would agree with what he says 100% and I think it goes for anyone over 30.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqaEhP3RHjo
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    DS1: Aug 2003 (my first home birthed water baby!)
    DS2: May 2009 (my second home birthed water baby!)
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    July 2016: Laproscopic surgery to remove a ping pong ball sized endometrioma on left ovary and 3 pea size fibroids on outside of uterus. Hysteroscopy to remove one larger "penetrating fibroid" inside uterus.
    Oct 2016: Heartbroken after DH's vasectomy. Looks like my dreams of a daughter are gone.

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    I would agree with this wholeheartedly. Prior to starting my sway, I tried to do my usual T25 and PiYo beach body workouts to lose excess baby weight around my midsection. It. Wasn't. Going. Any. Where. It was when I started the cardio 60+min 6+ days a week, that it went away. I can only manage the cardio wearing my DS3 while pushing DS2 in a stroller. By nature, I can't walk super fast so I've been walking normal speed but for 60+ min. The weight has come off, with 10lbs to go, and my abs are flat! I have to eat the upper limit of fat right now while I'm nursing so much still, but I've been eating more veggies compared to fruit than I typically do. I hadn't thought about it, but I bet that's been helping more than I realize.

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    I suggest you do a 20% version of the Alternate Day Diet/Intermittent Fasting. Use an online calculator that takes into account your age, sex, weight and activity level to calculate your daily caloric needs (to maintain your current weight). Then multply that by .2, and eat that 20% every other day. Ideally you should eat the % over a 36 hour period, then eat as much as you like (though don't go crazy, I'd try to not go much over 2000 cals) for 12 hours, then for the next 36 hours eat your 20%, then 12 hours of regular eating, and so on. If possible, try to eat your 20% all as 1 or 2 meals and eat as low carb as possible during this 'fasting time'.

    If you can't manage 20%, you can start at 50% and work your way down. You can also do 24/24 alternating, or 18/30, or 20/28...whatever you find manageable, though 12/36 is optimal.

    The hunger at night wa always the biggest issue for me on fasting days. I honestly recommend a script for sleeping pills, to be taken on only those nights. Constipation was my other annoyance but it was manageable, and I only had that problem when fasting completely. You should be fine at 20+%.

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    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
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    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Daily intermittent fasting worked well for me before I got pregnant with my 11mth old. I would eat all my calories in 6-8 hrs (so I'd eat basically non-stop from like 8-2:00) and then not eat again until 8 the next morning. I've never had a problem not eating in the evenings so it might not be as easy for the average person.
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    trying to push breakfast back and eat 3 meals in narrower time frame and also added in probiotics. Down 3 lbs now although I doubt it's from the new changes, it may have been just time for it to drop off!!

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    For me personally, I need the longer peeiod of fasting/rgreatly reduced cals to see results. So just eating 6-12 hours out of each 24 hour period doesn't do anything for me. I personally need at least a full 24 hours of complete fasting or very few cals, and 36 is even better. I think you may be similar, atomic, as it seems like your body is similar to mine in regards to food and weight loss. Though of course I don't have experience with age slowing metabolism yet. I would assume that effect should not be very strong until y8u go through menopause.

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    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Supposedly the changes start to happen in perimenopause which I do think I have going on since my cycle is getting shorter and lighter (not that I"m complaining LOL)

    I can't go that long without eating because I turn into a huge bitch haha. Additionally I'm just not sure it's a good idea since according to the stuff I've read I'm already losing the muscle and bone mass faster than in my 30's. I like being ripped too so I don't want to lose much muscle. Is it so much to ask to just be super buff and skinny without any misery or effort on my part??

    My husband is doing the IF now and it seems to be working for him, although I must report it is also turning him into a huge bitch.
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    IF actually increases muscle done properly. I have always been severely hypomuscular but when doing extreme IF I built muscle so easily (and it dramatically changed my body shape). Amazingly, I've kept most of the increased muscle years later. IF done as I do/suggest activates a bunch of genetic changes, the biggest effects being increased metabolism, increased muscle, targeted fat burning (fat is burned over muscle almost exclusively, provided you eat enough protein), and life extension -including actual reversal of aging, which I personally witnessed via wrinkles improving/disappearing (even though I lost a ton of fat in my face).

    The 36/12 model is my own invention based on the most extensive rodent research done on alternate day style fasting, though like I said, you'll still see results from 24/24, just less dramatically so.

    I used to run a forum of IFers (most doing 24/24, some doing 36/12 or something in between) and the 'I can't go that long without eating' issue was the most common question. Some people do struggle with fasting/calorie reduction a lot more than others. But once you get into IF, the changes will make it much easier for you. So it's a matter of easing into it in a way that is manageable. I recommend gradually extending time between meals and eating mostly protein with some fat while fasting, starting at a full 50%, and eating plenty when not fasting, so that the reserve will help tide you over.

    The genetic and other dramatic body chemistry changes only occur with at least a 24 hour fasting periof, and they take about 3 weeks to kick in, minimum (longer if you are at a higher %). But you can get the effects from 50%. It's what I recommend to people who want the health benefits without losing weight, and I've seen it work (one of my ex BFs did 50% for several months). You may lose weight on 50%, especially if you don't overeat when not fasting, but I recommend you aim for 20-30% for best results.

    I would never recommend any diet that negatively affects bone density or lowers metabolic rate. Provided you eat a nutrient rich diet and get enough calories overall, you should only see benefits. Exercise of any sort will help too, and you'll see what I mean about the muscle building. I really hope you give it a go bc I think you would do fabulously on it. And you will adapt a lot faster than you think bc unlike other diets/forms of IF, alternate day IF has such strong, positive biological effects.
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    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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