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January 29th, 2015, 11:00 AM
#21
Dream Vet
I found it! It DOES seem that femara sways significantly more than clomid. The study sample size was good (374 on clomid, 376 on femara), and the clomid gender ratio was .88 and for femara .65 (lower means more girls). I do wonder if the fact that women who need medication to O probably have lower fertility anyway is partly why they had so many girls, but I don't think it could account for that big of a shift in gender ratio. And regardless, femara did produce a higher percentage of girls.
Now I need to go learn exactly why/how...oh wait, that probably isn't good for a pink sway. Damn. I'll have to delay this project until I'm pregnant.
My Ovulation Chart currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP
TTC #1
- swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!
Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic
Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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January 29th, 2015, 12:29 PM
#22
So I went to the dr today and they just ran some blood tests etc. I have to go back in a week which puts me out for this cycle if I want medication.
If I ovulate this cycle, I'm wondering if I should attempt or wait to see if I can get medication if it sways so much...
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January 30th, 2015, 10:23 AM
#23
Dream Vet
If you've already been doing the diet tor 12w I would attempt this cycle, if not I'd wait.
My Ovulation Chart currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP
TTC #1
- swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!
Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic
Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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January 30th, 2015, 01:41 PM
#24
Swaying Advice Coach
Originally Posted by
maidentomother
I found it! It DOES seem that femara sways significantly more than clomid. The study sample size was good (374 on clomid, 376 on femara), and the clomid gender ratio was .88 and for femara .65 (lower means more girls). I do wonder if the fact that women who need medication to O probably have lower fertility anyway is partly why they had so many girls, but I don't think it could account for that big of a shift in gender ratio. And regardless, femara did produce a higher percentage of girls.
Now I need to go learn exactly why/how...oh wait, that probably isn't good for a pink sway. Damn. I'll have to delay this project until I'm pregnant.
THe thing I assumed made Clomid sway, is negated by the study - namely that Clomid blocks estrogen more thorougly than Femara and thus should sway more strongly than Clomid - we know so little about this!
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January 30th, 2015, 04:09 PM
#25
Dream Vet
It's shocking how little we know, really, about the body and how meds work. Let's hope with the rise in clomid & femara use we'll see more research into their mechanism of action.
My Ovulation Chart currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP
TTC #1
- swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!
Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic
Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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February 1st, 2015, 02:31 PM
#26
Swaying Advice Coach
Another interesting thing is the way that Clomid has actually seemed to work BETTER the month after stopping it for some people. I have seen so many people get pg the month after stopping Clomid and getting girls. I would love to have millions of dollars and an army of grad students at my disposal to study all these things.
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February 1st, 2015, 02:34 PM
#27
Swaying Advice Coach
Originally Posted by
maidentomother
I found it! It DOES seem that femara sways significantly more than clomid. The study sample size was good (374 on clomid, 376 on femara), and the clomid gender ratio was .88 and for femara .65 (lower means more girls). I do wonder if the fact that women who need medication to O probably have lower fertility anyway is partly why they had so many girls, but I don't think it could account for that big of a shift in gender ratio. And regardless, femara did produce a higher percentage of girls.
Now I need to go learn exactly why/how...oh wait, that probably isn't good for a pink sway. Damn. I'll have to delay this project until I'm pregnant.
Oh and wanted to point out that this was in women with PCOS. No way to know if this translates to general population or not.
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February 2nd, 2015, 03:44 PM
#28
Dream Vet
That is my dream too! There are so many interesting things that deserve research, and yet so many STUPID studies like 'sedentary people have more body fat than athletes'...seriously? A grant was wasted on THAT?
I do want to go back to school for a doctorate and hopefully a career in academia once I'm done having kids. But I think I will probably go into chem or physics. Who knows though!
My Ovulation Chart currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP
TTC #1
- swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!
Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic
Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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February 3rd, 2015, 02:06 PM
#29
Swaying Advice Coach
Yes I find it sooo annoying when they basically do the same study again and again when there is so much in the world that needs studying. grr.
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