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    Someone just messaged me about a potential error that puts the data back up where I would have expected it to be...working to get this rectified and then I will update original thread.
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    The "polar egg" is a complete lie and misrepresentation of science, as well. Just because they use the word "polar" does not mean "magnet", it's simply a term that describes a stage of the egg's development where a piece of it swells and breaks off but is unfertiliziable. This is called "the polar body" and a charlatan who has never offered his "studies" for review by any other scientists twists that using science-ese designed to confuse people into believing that this has to do with electric charges and magnetism. It simply cannot be, because if your egg was magnetic enough to pull a sperm to it, you'd be walking around attracting anything with iron in it to your abdomen. (you know how you have to have magnets really close to something to pick them up!!)

    This is one thing I know I need an essay on, but it's just SO DUMB LOL. I hate having to spend the time debunking something SO ridiculous.

    with potential effects on mood (even just the act of putting on lotion and painting nails can be soothing for some people, possibly relaxing) and also at the risk of making NO friends LOL I ~personally~ believe there is an ever-so-slight tendency with people who may be more set for girls to start with, to attribute things to supernatural/magic/fatalistic explanations like "rose quartz bracelets make baby girls because ions" while some of us who are more set for boys want everything to fit into a perfectly logical framework and tend to be more skeptical of ions and hence less likely to believe them and use them. So may even be an artifact of Mary-Martha to some extent. Even back on Ingender it was like that, before I ever started doing any research or had ever heard of Maternal Dominance Hypothesis - there was just this different vibe coming from the wild-eyed ladies who drank every drop of the Kool Aid (oh whoops I mean Crystal Light) and then the ones who weren't and weren't willing to do the nutty stuff. And then when the latter got more opposites, everyone then took that as this incontrovertible proof that all these ridiculous things mattered when it was glaringly obvious, looking around at the rest of the universe who isn't doing any of them and still getting boys and girls without them (or even doing the opposite, like alcohol and coffee which you will still see reported as being strong BLUE sway tactics on the other sites) that they DON'T.
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    Just added my sway results. Sorry it took so long. I can basically only post from my phone and it doesn't work half the time!


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    No not at all, thank you so very much!!!!! It is very much appreciated.
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    Awesome post! FYI, that tendency to believe in the magical etc has actual term, schizotypal. Basically it's used to describe a very mild, functional form of schizophrenia. Like all mental conditions it's a spectrum, with schizophrenia at one end and an interest/belief in the magical at the otger. One of the best courses I took in college was a cross-departmental bio/pysch elective called Human Sexuality taught by Robert Sapolsky, a very brilliant and interesting man. It was one of the most popular classes available to undergrads. Sapolsky is most famous for his hands on primate research (he's spent multiple years studying the same tribes) and has also written some great books on biology phenomena for laypeople.

    Much of what I learned in that class (which covered many fringe topics) made me able to grasp the concepts of swaying easily, and I'm sure Sapolsky would have some fascinating things to say about swaying. Anyway, he discussed schizotypal tendencies and how they are the reason schizophrenia has remained in the gene pool instead of dying out due to natural selection. Bc back in the day, having the mild form, I.e. being schizotypal, was an evolutionary advantage. Such people were typically the religious leaders, shamans in their earliest incarnations, and were highly respected socially.

    Since it seems OCD tendencies might sway blue, I wonder about schizotypal ones. I have full blown OCD and am definitely strongly schizotypal - though thankfully functionally so. Magical thinking is very often present in OCD, so now I'm wondering if there's crossover in brain function/structure and genetically. I wouldn't be surprised if schizotypal sways blue, with or without OCD/controlling personality elements.
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    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Oh yeah I've read some of his writing and watched a really interesting documentary that featured him at length. Very cool.

    I personally feel that the tendency has been that those who attribute things to external control are the people who have more girls and those who attribute things to internal control (ie things that they personally can control) are the ones who have more boys. It's just that very, very strong trend I've seen. OCD in and of itself, while it can certainly be a type of magical thinking, is often rooted in rituals that a person can themselves control while WITH MANY EXCEPTIONS I feel more of a sense of external forces at work - the moon, being punished for something, their husbands "making only X" or so on.
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    Spreadsheet is now fixed until we get too many entries, so updated stats as of today are:

    Total sways: 351
    Total pink: 229
    Success %: 65.24% success

    TTC CYCLES
    Success, cycles= 3.1027
    Opposites, cycles= 2.7619

    MULTIPLES
    Total multiples= 11

    PERSONALISED PLAN
    Total sways: 91
    Total success: 62
    Success %: 68.13
    Inverse success %: 0

    VITEX
    Total sways: 116
    Total success: 67
    Success %: 57.76
    Inverse success %: 0

    SAW PALMETTO
    Total sways: 81
    Total success: 49
    Success %: 60.49
    Inverse success %: 0

    ANTIHISTAMINES
    Total sways: 167
    Total success: 101
    Success %: 60.48
    Inverse success %: 0

    CRANBERRY OR ASPIRIN
    Total sways: 192
    Total success: 126
    Success %: 65.63
    Inverse success %: 0

    CRANBERRY (specifically)
    Total sways: 42
    Total success: 26
    Success %: 61.9

    ASPIRIN (specifically)
    Total sways: 115
    Total success: 76
    Success %: 66.09

    REPLENS/REPHRESH
    Total sways: 121
    Total success: 78
    Success %: 64.46
    Inverse success %: 0

    LIME/DOUCHE
    Total sways: 20
    Total success: 15
    Success %: 75
    Inverse success %: 0

    JUMP & DUMP
    Total sways: 130
    Total success: 82
    Success %: 63.08
    Inverse success %: 0

    CAL+MAG
    Total sways: 77
    Total success: 54
    Success %: 70.13
    Inverse success %: 0

    PREGNITUDE
    Total sways: 6
    Total success: 5
    Success %: 83.33% success
    Inverse success %: 0

    LIQ. ROOT for DH
    Total sways: 88
    Total success: 61
    Success %: 69.32
    Inverse success %: 0

    CLOMID
    Total sways: 44
    Total success: 34
    Success %: 77.27
    Inverse success %: 0

    SOY ISOFLAVONES
    Total sways: 17
    Total success: 10
    Success %: 58.82
    Inverse success %: 0

    CRANBERRY/ASPIRIN for DH
    Total sways: 106
    Total success: 71
    Success %: 66.98
    Inverse success %: 0

    CAFFEINE (needs separating out)
    Total sways (Some and Lots): 54
    Total success: 79
    Success %: 68.35% success
    Inverse success %: 0

    SUGAR
    Total sways (Some and Lots): 56
    Total success: 78
    Success %: 71.79% success
    Inverse success %:

    SUGAR - none 39
    Success % 51.28
    SUGAR - some 65
    Success % 55.38
    SUGAR - lots 13
    Success % 53.85

    IONS
    Total sways: 168
    Total success: 117
    Success %: 69.64
    Inverse success %: 0

    NEW MOON
    Total sways: 75
    Total success: 53
    Success %: 70.67
    Inverse success %: 0

    CHINESE GENDER CALENDAR
    Total sways: 65
    Total success: 47
    Success %: 72.31
    Inverse success %: 0

    OLD WIVES TALES
    Total sways: 126
    Total success: 82
    Success %: 65.08
    Inverse success %: 0

    ACIDPHIOUS
    Total sways: 37
    Total success: 16
    Success %: 43.24
    Inverse success %: 0

    FERTILITY CHARM/SPELL
    Total sways: 12
    Total success: 5
    Success %: 41.67
    Inverse success %: 0

    FIBRE
    Total sways: 106
    Total success: 73
    Success %: 68.87
    Inverse success %: 0

    ACIGEL/SYLK
    Total sways: 77
    Total success: 51
    Success %: 66.23
    Inverse success %: 0

    SKIPPING BREAKFAST
    Total sways: 247
    Total success: 164
    Success %: 66.4
    Inverse success %: 0

    EXERCISE
    Total sways: 80
    Total success: 61
    Success %: 76.25
    Inverse success %: 0

    FIRST CYCLE AFTER MC
    Total sways: 20
    Total success: 15
    Success %: 75
    Inverse success %: 0

    BREASTFEEDING
    Total sways: 40
    Total success: 27
    Success %: 67.5
    Inverse success %: 0

    BIRTH CONTROL PILL
    Total sways: 12
    Total success: 9
    Success %: 75
    Inverse success %: 0

    LEFT-SLEEPER
    Total sways: 70
    Total success: 51
    Success %: 72.86
    Inverse success %: 0

    RASPBERRY/PEPPERMINT TEA
    Total sways: 49
    Total success: 37
    Success %: 75.51
    Inverse success %: 0

    OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT for DH
    Total sways: 37
    Total success: 28
    Success %: 75.68
    Inverse success %: 0

    CINNAMON
    Total sways: 20
    Total success: 16
    Success %: 80
    Inverse success %: 0

    SWAYERS WITH PCOS
    Total sways: 19
    Total success: 14
    Success %: 73.68
    Inverse success %: N/A

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    DIET
    IG
    - Total sways 27
    - Total success 11
    - Success % 40.74
    LE
    - Total sways 227
    - Total success 141
    - Success % 62.11
    FGD
    - Total sways 4
    - Total success 4
    - Success % 100
    IG/LE MIX
    - Total sways 16
    - Total success 10
    - Success % 62.5
    VEGETARIAN (non-sway)
    - Total sways 15
    - Total success 10
    - Success % 66.67
    GENERIC DIET (non-sway)
    - Total sways 4
    - Total success 3
    - Success % 75
    OTHER DIET
    - Total sways 32
    - Total success 23
    - Success % 71.88
    NO DIET
    - Total sways 20
    - Total success 12
    - Success % 60

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    TIMING
    Attempted O+12
    - Total sways 19
    - Total success 13
    - Success % 68.42
    Through OV/pos OPK (all)
    - Total sways 234
    - Total success 146
    - Success % 62.39
    OV (confirmed)
    - Total sways 119
    - Total success 79
    - Success % 66.39
    Pos OPK
    - Total sways 86
    - Total success 49
    - Success % 56.98
    2-3 day cut off
    - Total sways 55
    - Total success 31
    - Success % 56.36
    4+ day cut off
    - Total sways 12
    - Total success 10
    - Success % 83.33

    ***************************
    FREQUENCY
    FR
    - Total sways 68
    - Total success 43
    - Success % 63.24
    FBD
    - Total sways 64
    - Total success 39
    - Success % 60.94
    CFR
    - Total sways 19
    - Total success 15
    - Success % 78.95
    ABSTAIN
    - Total sways 71
    - Total success 42
    - Success % 59.15
    EVERY 4 DAYS
    - Total sways 24
    - Total success 17
    - Success % 70.83
    OTHER
    - Total sways 79
    - Total success 45
    - Success % 56.96

    ***************************
    NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS
    1 PLUS J&D
    - Total sways 58
    - Total success 44
    - Success % 75.86
    1
    - Total sways 147
    - Total success 98
    - Success % 66.67
    2
    - Total sways 67
    - Total success 39
    - Success % 58.21
    3
    - Total sways 45
    - Total success 24
    - Success % 53.33
    4+
    - Total sways 70
    - Total success 44
    - Success % 62.86

    ***************************
    DIET WEEKS
    1-4 weeks
    - Total sways 37
    - Total success 19
    - Success % 51.35
    5-8 weeks
    - Total sways 71
    - Total success 40
    - Success % 56.34
    9-12 weeks
    - Total sways 55
    - Total success 39
    - Success % 70.91
    13-16 weeks
    - Total sways 34
    - Total success 21
    - Success % 61.76
    17-20 weeks
    - Total sways 17
    - Total success 13
    - Success % 76.47
    21-24 weeks
    - Total sways 18
    - Total success 12
    - Success % 66.67
    25+ weeks
    - Total sways 71
    - Total success 48
    - Success % 67.61

    ***************************
    ALCOHOL
    None
    - Total sways 85
    - Total success 49
    - Success % 57.65
    Wine
    - Total sways 48
    - Total success 39
    - Success % 81.25
    Spirits
    - Total sways 14
    - Total success 8
    - Success % 57.14
    Beer
    - Total sways 4
    - Total success 3
    - Success % 75
    Other
    - Total sways 15
    - Total success 8
    - Success % 53.33
    All alcohol
    - Total sways 72
    - Total success 58
    - Success % 80.56
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    Thanks heaps, great data. It helps in deciding which things to include in swaying pink. Thanks again

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    THANK YOU!!!! I will fix the first post when I get thru with my q's for the day. Much, much, much appreciated blueeyedguys and chloepink who also helped with this.
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