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July 1st, 2015, 10:56 AM
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Dream Vet
Clomid's affect on OPKs and monitors? Reliable?
A few of us in the July 2WW thread are having issues with OPKs and monitors behaving badly The monitor has said "high" for over a week and OPKs, for me at least, are annoyingly fickle getting very close to a + then getting lighter again or even nearly vanishing as mine did last night. I don't recall having this issue when I took clomid before but with more than just myself having issues it makes me wonder if OPKs (or monitors)are reliable while taking clomid? Any input on your experiences would be greatly appreciated. DH and I switched from E4D to 1 attempt at +OPK and if OPKs can't be reliable I need to know so I can switch back! Not to mention not waste my time or money taking the OPKs. TIA.
This is what my OPKs are doing & typically mine are stark white until just before, during and just after O (today's not included):
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July 1st, 2015, 11:59 AM
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Dream Vet
What brand are you using? My Dr told me that some of the cheaper brands do not work.
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July 1st, 2015, 12:04 PM
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Dream Vet
Clinical guard. They are internet cheapies.
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July 1st, 2015, 03:54 PM
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Swaying Advice Coach
The monitors are not reliable anyway unfortunately. IT is not unusual to get "high" reading and then nothing happens with them, Clomid can def. make this more likely because of the boost it gives to estrogen - basically tricks your body into thinking a surge is coming when it isn't just yet. The "peak" reading should still be reliable though.
OPK are reliable on Clomid provided that you don't start them while you're still ON the Clomid. You have to start them after you've stopped taking the Clomid. Clomid can delay O or make it come early so it's hard to know where you are exactly.
WE have gotten best results with Wondfo and Babi brand but if those kind work for you, I'd keep doing what you're doing.
TEMPING is not reliable on Clomid, so can't go off that.
It is totally possible to go back and forth with lighter and darker lines and in fact if your husband POAS he would get the same kind of lines. None of those tests look positive to me and if you normally get good results with those I would keep going with them.
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July 1st, 2015, 04:12 PM
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Dream Vet
No, no positives but the last one in that pic looked REALLY close to + during the time frame. Then nearly vanished just a few hours later (checking to see if it'd officially be +). I truely hate TTC Lol. Thanks atomic.
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July 1st, 2015, 04:34 PM
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Swaying Advice Coach
When in doubt, attempt. The purpose to the OPK is to make sure you have one well-timed attempt at a point in your cycle you can get pregnant. It's better to be in sooner rather than later, so don't wait around for a positive that never comes, attempt even if it's a little too soon. Sometimes people never get a real pos OPK and wait and wait instead of DTD at the very dark OPK that wasn't quite pos yet.
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July 1st, 2015, 04:38 PM
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Dream Vet
Thanks atomic. I'll keep that in mind
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July 1st, 2015, 05:16 PM
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Dream Vet
While I haven't seen your situation before, the many Highs on a monitor is typical. Basically you can't use a monitor in the normal manner during a medicated cycle, unless you O late and start testing on the 4th day after your last Clomid dose. If you use a monitor any earlier, you will get false Highs.
it's not true that temping is necessarily unreliable in medicated cycles. It can be, but most often temping is still accurate.
I do think it's likely you're using a bad OPK brand that is too sensitive and not good quality (doesn't reflect differences in LH level accurately).
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Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
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Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period
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July 1st, 2015, 06:53 PM
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Dream Vet
Two im in the same boat, with the good Formosa supplied wondfos. I DID get one last cycle - one strong pos last cycle on cd 17; and alas, today is day 17 and nothing.
We too switched from E4d to pos opk and I HOPE to see something tomorrow (or tonight when I test again..)
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July 1st, 2015, 07:02 PM
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Dream Vet
for you Hitmebabyonemoretime
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