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March 2nd, 2015, 01:09 PM
#1
NEWBIE NEEDING ADVICE
Hi All, I have 3 boys, have tried Shettles theory. Even finishing bd 4 days before o. I am a vegetarian, very low body fat, cardio for more than an hour 5x a wk. Recently tested ph, mine never going higher than 4.5 but my dh is 12/14!! Have used Genesis for pgd and always had a very low amount of girls to put back. I have then amazed Genesis 3 times by m/c at 6 wks when they believed that things were 1oo% perfect. Do you think that there is anything else that I can do?
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March 2nd, 2015, 01:17 PM
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IVF Advice Coach
I'm so sorry for your losses. You may have an immunity issue.
What supplements were you on with the losses? Progesterone and estrace? Did you have a SCH ever?
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March 2nd, 2015, 01:18 PM
#3
Hiya, sorry to hear that you've not been successful at genesis. So you've been to genesis 3times and miscarried each time? Sorry just trying to understand your situation. You know that at genesis they grade the embryo visually and also then do 5probe fish testing so the embryo isn't fully tested on all it's chromosomes. So although they call the embryo normal it may not be.
I think it depends if you were taking supplements when you were cycling . All so DH can take supplements to improve quality and number of girls.
Savvas generally keeps to the same down reg protocol and also prefers Menopur/merional so maybe a change to a FSH drug like gonal would be a start if you wanted to continue with HT.
If not and you want to try swaying your best person to speak to is atomic. There is a whole section on swaying and getting your own personal swaying plan from atomic.
Hope that helps a little?
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March 2nd, 2015, 01:19 PM
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IVF Advice Coach
Dr Braverman on here is an expert in immunity issues. Here is a link to schedule a free call with him-
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/free...-new-york.html
After three losses, I would think there is an underlying issue.
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March 3rd, 2015, 12:56 PM
#5
Swaying Advice Coach
DH with a pH of 12-14 is very unlikely and if this is the case you need him to go to a doctor and be checked for a prostate infection.
Shettles doesn't work. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html
I am not quite sure what you are asking - there are always different things to do and try, but are you still going Genesis or swaying?
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March 4th, 2015, 06:54 AM
#6
I guess that I am asking if you think that DH may have been the problem all along, perhaps this is why with pgd we always got proportionally more boys than girls .DH has been to the doc and she amazingly said that she didn't think that a ph of 12-14 was a problem! She did however give a a course of antibiotics just in case and we can then retest after he has finished them. I am now in my forties and panicking that it may be too late although my blood work is still pretty good due to mild polycystic ovaries (not the syndrome though, I am skinny). My preference would be to sway, however also wondered if changing DH diet would make a difference to the amount of girls that we got if we had no luck naturally and went for PGD again? Thank you for your help in advance.
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March 4th, 2015, 06:59 AM
#7
Thanks for your reply. It is assumed that I may have an immunity issue, that they say has the ability to switch on/off, therefore blood tests aren't a good indication. However I would be using Intralipid if I was fortunate enough to sway and conceive, or even end up PGDing again.
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March 4th, 2015, 07:17 AM
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IVF Advice Coach
If you are in your 40's without doing 23 chromosome testing, it is likely an egg quality issue. If you have PCOS, you should be tested for insulin resistance before cycling and be on metformin to help with egg quality. Were you on metformin?
IVF in our 40's is very hard. With only using 5-probe FISH, you are only testing chromosome 13, 18 and 21 so there are 20 others that can cause a loss including chromosome 16 that is often responsible for miscarriages.
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March 4th, 2015, 07:26 AM
#9
Thanks for your reply.My 1st two PGD's were with Mr Rainsbury and going to the USA, but badly hyperstimulated by the time I got there. 1st Genesis attempt was Mr Rainsbury lead and total hyperstimulated. 3 more attempts using Dr Rami (Savvas' friend) in Harley St. and FSH drug used due to Rami realising that I have mild pco but not pcos.These 3 were the ones that were m/c at 6 wks. Rami suggests that i have immunity issues that have the ability to switch on/off, therefore would use Intralipid if there were a next time.
I was taking Vit c, acidophulus .
May I ask where Clinic R is? I wish you the very best of luck this month.
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March 4th, 2015, 08:46 AM
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IVF Advice Coach
It's sounds like total mismanagement and very poor pretesting on their part. What was your pretesting AFC? Insulin resistance would be one test you need for sure but protocol sounds all wrong. More info on clinic R is located in the member forums.
Hello, Atomic hopefully you will see this! It has definitely been a while. I am not TTC, my cycles have been MIA for over a year, I'm quite certain. I have not been charting but haven't had it....
Not sure where to ask not TTC